· 13:25JEFFREY MISHLOVE You’ve also characterized our present age as, as one in which modern man seems to be robbed of his own free will, that through Freudian psychology, and other scientific movements we see the human being as, as being influenced by deterministic forces, and threats of great social movements, nuclear war, and so on. That there’s nothing that we can do. There’s a feeling of helplessness, alienation. And yet you suggest, I think, that through philosophical and existential exploration, we can enter into a, in effect, another state of consciousness where, where we reconnect at our will at a deeper level.

· 14:05DR. ROLLO MAY Yes, this is why I wrote “Love and Will”. Cuz, you cannot love unless you also can will. Uh, and, uh, I, uh, thought, I think and thought when I wrote that book that a new way of love, uh, would come about. People would learn to be intimate again. They would write letters. There would be a feeling of friendship among people. Now, this is the new age that is coming. And, I don’t think it’s a matter chiefly of philosophy. See,nowadays there are no philosophers. The last philosopher in this country was Paul Tillich. Uh, and, uh, people now have given up, and they now call philosophy the kibitzing of science, a way of simply looking over the scientist’s shoulder and seeing how they can help science put things together. And, that’s not philosophy. Philosophy is a deep search for a truth by which I can fulfill myself, by which I can create. Uh, Philosophy is the basis of freedom. It’s the basis of goodness, too. It seems to not trouble many modern people, but I think it’s a great mistake, cuz of all of our lack of ethics, our lack of morality. We need goodness, and we need beauty. All of those are philosophical terms, but beyond that, you see I’m really apsychotherapist. After saying all these nasty things about psychotherapy